Classical Wu Tai Chi turning movement
For most of the video link above, my teacher Stephen Hwa said this about "...is it an internal move or is it an external move...": "The most important instruction on Internal Discipline passed down from Wu Chien Chuan to my teacher Young Wabu is that": "Every movement in Tai Chi Form has to have two complementary parts of the body, a moving part (called Yang) and a stationary part (called Yin). When the yin-yang junction is located in the torso of the body, it is an internal move. When it is outside the torso, it is an external move".
David M. said: " I have two of Master Hwa's DVDs and I find his concepts fascinating. I am a practitioner of Wu Style TCC (disciple of the Wu Family). However, we have been taught that all of the movements are generated by the "hips" first, not the "waist". I still do not understand why Master Hwa thinks that the hips should remain less mobile than the waist. The hips are the fulcrum of the body and connect the upper with the lower.
Master Stephen Hwa said: "Turning at the waist vs. turning using Kua/Hip When you teach or demonstrate the internal move “turning at the waist” in Classical Tai Chi, you likely will encounter questions “why not using Kua/hip”. Most external martial arts and large numbers of tai chi schools practice the use of Kua or hip for that turning motion. Jim Roach, our first certified instructor, spent his early years of martial art training using “turn with Kuo/hip”, then he switched over to learn Classical Tai chi using “turn at the waist”. He has good insight to this discussion. "
Jim Roach: " It would seem the only thing that is not said is "you will lose your balance" IF "you turn in these postures from the hip" IF you are in a "small frame" Tai Chi stance. I partially agree with "only turn the hip" side of the discussion on what I experienced. What I never heard stated is how "frame size" has such bearing on whether hip turning causes the feet to move. One can indeed turn such amounts of the hip in the large stances that some teach. Also what both sides seem to miss is the proper use of the hips via such things as timing. For instance one can turn the waist, THEN turn the hips in a follow-up We see this in the cooperative push hands of Tao of Martial Applications. This is indicative that turning the hips is not eschewed, it just means it should be done in the right situation. After all, I am sitting in a chair as I write this, lo and behold, I cannot turn my hips but I can turn my torso.
For most of the video link above, my teacher Stephen Hwa said this about "...is it an internal move or is it an external move...": "The most important instruction on Internal Discipline passed down from Wu Chien Chuan to my teacher Young Wabu is that": "Every movement in Tai Chi Form has to have two complementary parts of the body, a moving part (called Yang) and a stationary part (called Yin). When the yin-yang junction is located in the torso of the body, it is an internal move. When it is outside the torso, it is an external move".
David M. said: " I have two of Master Hwa's DVDs and I find his concepts fascinating. I am a practitioner of Wu Style TCC (disciple of the Wu Family). However, we have been taught that all of the movements are generated by the "hips" first, not the "waist". I still do not understand why Master Hwa thinks that the hips should remain less mobile than the waist. The hips are the fulcrum of the body and connect the upper with the lower.
Master Stephen Hwa said: "Turning at the waist vs. turning using Kua/Hip When you teach or demonstrate the internal move “turning at the waist” in Classical Tai Chi, you likely will encounter questions “why not using Kua/hip”. Most external martial arts and large numbers of tai chi schools practice the use of Kua or hip for that turning motion. Jim Roach, our first certified instructor, spent his early years of martial art training using “turn with Kuo/hip”, then he switched over to learn Classical Tai chi using “turn at the waist”. He has good insight to this discussion. "
Jim Roach: " It would seem the only thing that is not said is "you will lose your balance" IF "you turn in these postures from the hip" IF you are in a "small frame" Tai Chi stance. I partially agree with "only turn the hip" side of the discussion on what I experienced. What I never heard stated is how "frame size" has such bearing on whether hip turning causes the feet to move. One can indeed turn such amounts of the hip in the large stances that some teach. Also what both sides seem to miss is the proper use of the hips via such things as timing. For instance one can turn the waist, THEN turn the hips in a follow-up We see this in the cooperative push hands of Tao of Martial Applications. This is indicative that turning the hips is not eschewed, it just means it should be done in the right situation. After all, I am sitting in a chair as I write this, lo and behold, I cannot turn my hips but I can turn my torso.
"Two complementary parts...", Chapter 1, The Internal Discipline of Tai Chi, page 2, Uncovering the Treasure, Classical Tai Chi's Path to Internal Energy & Health, Stephen Hwa available Amazon.com
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